The Finch Formerly Known As Gold

2 December 2004

Instead of stuffing

Baldilocks goes (perhaps not too far) out on a limb:

You think you've seen a mass liberal hissy-fit in the wake of the 2004 election? This is nothing. Should Condoleezza Rice change her mind and run for president in 2008, I predict that 50% of the black vote will go toward the Republican ticket. And that's a conservative estimate. Pun intended.

Dr Rice has always said she wasn't interested in the top job, but would she take #2 if it were offered? Would a [fill in name of GOP Presidential wannabe]/Rice ticket draw somewhere between 11 percent and fifty?

And if it would, does it really matter at all whom the Democrats nominate?

Posted at 8:11 AM to Political Science Fiction


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If the black vote ever ceases voting en bloc for the Democrats, said Democrats will be utterly and permanently finished as a major political party, even by pretense. The frantic anti-GOP race-baiting we always see in the last week of an election campaign shows the Democrats have known it for at least a generation.

Posted by: McGehee at 8:58 AM on 2 December 2004

Blacks voting 'en bloc', "frantic anti-GOP race-baiting"? Where do you so-called "conservatives" get off with such deliberately misleading, fallacious pseudo-reasoning?

Oh, you're Republicans..

--Go figure..

Posted by: Captain And at 9:15 AM on 2 December 2004

Wha?

Which of those isn't completely accurate? If 90% isn't en bloc then what is?

How many times do the Dems have to play the race card before it's "race baiting?"

Posted by: Dan at 1:07 PM on 2 December 2004

Hurt feelings come before facts, dontcha know. Right, Democrats? /sarcasm

(Thanks for the link, Charles.)

Posted by: Juliette at 2:43 PM on 2 December 2004

The empire runs free ... for now. Someday they will once again answer to the people- pity them and the Praetorian Guard which sustains them.

-Cicero

Posted by: Ron at 8:28 AM on 3 December 2004

What about a Giuliani/Rice ticket? That'd sure fix Shillary's wagon, wouldn't it?

Posted by: rita at 8:33 AM on 3 December 2004

As for the following emotional appeals..

"Which of those isn't completely accurate.."
"How many times do the Dems have to play the race card.."
"Hurt feelings come before facts.."
"That'd sure fix Shillary's wagon,.."

Yeah, right.. Typical prattlings of the spoon-fed cult of the riech-wing "true believer" mind-set..

Anyone here ever read Heinlein's "If This Goes On.."?? There are some similarities..

Posted by: Captain And at 9:01 AM on 3 December 2004

There's no parody like self-parody. Thanks for making us all laugh, "Captain And."

Posted by: McGehee at 11:08 AM on 3 December 2004

In defense of the Captain, I must point out that I've known the man for more than a decade and that he is not in fact a barking moonbat.

On the other hand, dealing with the wackier fringe of the Oklahoma GOP (Tom "Death to Abortionists, Except Me" Coburn is only slightly flaky by Soonerland standards) eventually takes its toll on us all.

Posted by: CGHill at 2:58 PM on 3 December 2004

Ahhh, harkening back to the days when modems were modems and the denizens of the electronic yelm were not as politically motivated to resort to childish ad hominems, back when it was a small cadre of smart people huddled around dumb terminals, instead of the other way around..

As for 'self-parody', Chas can attest to my priors into such aleatoric alliterations abounding as I attested to adroit, and not so adroit, idiots..

And?

Posted by: Captain And at 1:22 AM on 4 December 2004

Captain And:

Dude, if you're going to violate Godwin's Law, please get some help with your German. It's 'Reich,' not 'riech.' Additionally, all German nouns are capitalized.

/German-speaker, but not German, except maybe of the woodpile variety

Posted by: Juliette at 9:32 PM on 4 December 2004

Oh and, by the way CA: you're workin' that 'Dowdification' thing well. I applaud you.

Posted by: Juliette at 9:41 PM on 4 December 2004

Henh! I see that you have the 'true believer' mind-set, accusing me of your own actions while pointing the other direction. Dowdification?

And you don't like Maureen Dowd because she said something bad about W. Bush.. Now, what was that about Godwin's Law, before the spelling 'lame?

"Which of those isn't completely accurate.."

I see no specific quanities mentioned, and ..

"How many times do the Dems have to play the race card.."

Plain and simply put, my dear Juliette, "Bullshit!" You have yet to establish, beyond a vague insinuation, that the Democrats have "played the race card" even once. Must I point out that not only do I not share your presumptions, I can and will dare to question your 'conclusions' as being somewhat doubtful in factual premises..

"Hurt feelings come before facts.."

And that insinuation is derived from precisely how much personal knowledge about me? That would likely be next to nothing, approaching zero, so might I suggest that you stick that in your innuendo?

"That'd sure fix Shillary's wagon,.."

Next time you have your brain washed, insist on a rinse cycle, you're still blowing bubbles, dear..

--And?

Posted by: Captain And at 12:48 AM on 5 December 2004

"It's 'Reich,' not 'riech.'"

Typos happen. I noticed on at least one occasion that The Good Captain managed to transpose the "ai" as "ia" in his name.....

Posted by: unimpressed at 3:50 AM on 5 December 2004

Which, ironically, I fixed when I first discovered it. (I think it was the first comment he placed here.)

Still, typos do happen. Just don't go looking for that particular one.

Posted by: CGHill at 9:12 AM on 5 December 2004

Typos aside, are there no facts to support the "conservative" points of view that originally caused me to point out the fallacious pseudo-reasoning involved with such? Out of respect for the management, a true giant of a man, I'd prefer to not go into an on-lie evisceration of this.. /&^)

--Keeping in mind which finger I use to type the "e" with..

Posted by: Captain And at 8:11 PM on 5 December 2004

I so love it when conservatives gather around, and tell we African Americans we're going endorse whatever political minstrel show candidate they throw at us.
I remember the beauties about how Alan Keyes was going to "shock the world" in Illinois '04.
I remember hearing how Ezola Foster was going to "bring the black church vote" to Pat Buchanan in 2000.
I remember hearing how J.C. Watts was going to "break the back" of the Congressional Black Congress.
And now...these..."Condi Rice will get 50% of the black vote" and bringing up Rudy Giuliani, a man who declared open season on unarmed black men during his tenure as mayor in NYC.
If you right wingers would spend a little more time LISTENING to African Americans, instead of profiling them, maybe you'd understand how ridiculous you all sound.

--Cobra

Posted by: Cobra at 5:22 PM on 7 December 2004

Well, I think you could make a reasonable case that Alan Keyes is a few fries short of a Happy Meal, and his little carpetbagger stunt in Illinois caused me more annoyance than joy.

As for Julius Caesar Watts, I didn't trust him, but then I've had more time than most to observe him in action. Let's say he never met a dollar he didn't like.

Posted by: CGHill at 7:16 PM on 7 December 2004

Captian And:

And you don't like Maureen Dowd because she said something bad about W. Bush

I don't dislike Maureen Dowd for any reason (since I don't know her); I just think that she's a dishonest pundit. That you would assume that I *dislike* her because she's said "bad" things about GWB, however, says quite a bit. About your mind-reading powers, that is.

You have yet to establish, beyond a vague insinuation, that the Democrats have "played the race card" even once.

Really? I suppose the phrases "house negro" and "Aunt Jemima" and Condi Rice portrayed as Butterfly McQueen's character in "Gone With The Wind" (perpetrated by three separated public Democrat voters) are merely "vague insinuations" in your playbook. Not in mine. And, BTW, in case you aren't inclined to read my blog. I have done far more than "vaguely insinuate" that Democrats have played the race card. It's understandable that you might not want to read my offerings (I'm the one that Charles has linked to). However, if you're not so inclined, assuming what is (or isn't) there makes little sense.

"Hurt feelings come before facts.."

And that insinuation is derived from precisely how much personal knowledge about me?

Even though, I didn't mention you personally in the above bolded quote, the same is apparently true regarding your assumptions about me. However, I'm not too wound up about it.

Cheers.

Posted by: Juliette at 12:10 AM on 8 December 2004

And that insinuation is derived from precisely how much personal knowledge about me?

Correction: This question was asked by Captain And.

Posted by: Juliette at 12:13 AM on 8 December 2004

Should the Religious Right stop trying to transform the Republican party and split their vote on principle?

Y'all just silly.

Posted by: P6 at 9:06 AM on 8 December 2004

I know I wouldn't want to be President if Condi was VP.
Chris Rock did a riff on the first black VP. He said, "I'd kill the president. Think of it, the first black president and all because of me. What are they going to do? Put me in jail? I'd be surrounded by black men who think I'm a hero."
(Paraphrased and curses removed)

Posted by: Veeshir at 6:31 AM on 9 December 2004

Good old Chris Rock. I don't know if he's the spiritual heir to Richard Pryor — he's managed much the same mix of brilliant stand-up and mediocre movies — but he's probably spot-on with that observation.

Posted by: CGHill at 7:36 AM on 9 December 2004