The Finch Formerly Known As Gold

29 August 2005

Some of us never learn

So here's an open thread. Try not to be too obnoxious, wouldja please?

Posted at 2:34 PM to Blogorrhea

Ever feel like you're beating your head against a dead horse? ;)

Posted by: Venomous Kate at 3:38 PM on 29 August 2005

If Gore had won that recount I wouldnt be coming home today with the biggest headache I've ever had in my life.

No Child Left Behind can suck the biggest ones it can find.

Posted by: Vickie at 3:42 PM on 29 August 2005

I have nothing of quality to add

Posted by: Donna at 8:42 PM on 29 August 2005

Of course, that has never stopped me

Posted by: Donna at 8:43 PM on 29 August 2005

Is it wrong that with every mention of Katrina, I hum "I'm Walking on Sunshine?"

Posted by: Donna at 8:44 PM on 29 August 2005

Maybe Vicki should look into homeschooling. At least in Oklahoma she could abuse her child freely (Oops, I left the sarcasm switch on)

Posted by: Dwayne "the canoe guy" at 9:36 PM on 29 August 2005

An open thread? On Dustbury? Wha?

I have nothing of quality to add
Donna, that could be the name of our blog. (Well, my half of it)

Posted by: Dan at 9:50 PM on 29 August 2005

Dwayne, the only people I want to abuse when it comes to NCLB are the Powers that Be. I have to spend the ENTIRE month of September testing my kids until they shit bubbles on their little scantron sheets to make sure they are all brought up to what Connecticut thinks is an acceptable level of learning. And all this testing doesnt even include the Mastery Test which has been moved to April. Because more testing makes better students. And more testing lets teachers teach their craft.
I'm not even going to bother with the sarcasm switch because there's no other way to discuss NCLB other than in a sarcastic and sardonic tone.

Posted by: Vickie at 5:42 AM on 30 August 2005

And if you're Open Thread is still open, what is an acceptable length of time one should allow before one finally picks up the phone to call ones freshman daughter who went to college six days ago and apparently forgot she has a home??

Posted by: Vickie at 5:43 AM on 30 August 2005

arrrrgh... YOUR

Effing NCLB needs to include NTCB as well.

Posted by: Vickie at 5:44 AM on 30 August 2005

Day Seven is when I pick up the phone, generally.

Posted by: CGHill at 6:19 AM on 30 August 2005

I was wondering, did the schools suck before NCLB? I know that we have had the same state school superintendent for over 12 years now. That means that we have had kids spend their entire school lives under her reign.

I'm not sure that our schools have gotten any better. A lot of folks say that parental involvement is the answer, but they shy away from the next logical step, seperation of school & state.

Anyway, sorry to hear about your school troubles. I hope they get better.

Posted by: Dwayne "the canoe guy" at 7:59 AM on 30 August 2005

You know, Dwayne, I think it's all relative. I think back in the day, I probably thought (as did my peers) that schools sucked, but now in retrospect, the suckage meter was WAY lower than it is now. People often ask me why I'm still teaching if I think everything sucks so badly. There are many reasons, but probably number one is that I refuse to give up, or IN to the PTB and I just shut my damn door, blacken the window with a cutsey poster, and continue to TEACH GRAMMAR (yes, today you're not supposed to teach grammar anymore; one doesn't need proper grammar in order to write well--I AM QUOTING YOU FROM OUR POWERS THAT BE); I TEACH ANALOGIES (yes, today you're not supposed to teach analogies--they tax the child's mind too much); I TEACH VOCABULARY (yes, today you're not supposed to teach vocabulary out of context--it might confuse the child unless he sees the word in context--to which I say bullshit); you're not supposed to make the kids memorize their times tables in math, yadayadayadablahblahhooeybaloney. I could go on forever.

The mission statement of my school states specifically that the teacher no longer TEACHES, he is a FACILITATOR in a child-centered environment where the child is responsible for his own learning.

Be very afraid, people. These kids are going to be performing your surgeries and arranging your financial affairs in twenty years, IF any self-respecting college admits this new generation of it's-all-about-me-you-can't-teach-me-anything kids. Trust me when I tell you what is happening in our schools today is a mind-bloggling disaster with unknown dire consequences. Research our own state's 'interpretation' of NCLB. NCLB has become a legalized act of terrorism and the victims are the kids.

Posted by: Vickie at 10:40 AM on 30 August 2005

Oh, if anyone was wondering, the thread remains open for six days (by which time it vanishes off the front page), or until it gets totally out of hand, whichever comes first.

Posted by: CGHill at 1:01 PM on 30 August 2005


I agree that NCLB is an absolute disaster. IF any child is unable to write a sentence that can be understood, he/she should repeat that particular class work until he/she can. If they don't like the way it makes them feel, then damn it, they should learn the material.

I can't even count the number of times times I've been told that "spelling/grammar doesn't matter" because "you know what I meant". Most of the time I'm able to puzzle it out, but I should not have to run a note through a translator to make sense of it.

Entirely too often I've had to assist a cashier in counting out the proper amount of change due me after a purchase and this is with the use of the "amount tendered" button. These kids can't even count the stuff back out of the drawer properly when the answer is given to them by the register. Simple math simply eludes them.

Putting up with this level of incompetence just so someone doesn't get their feelings hurt is abhorrent.

Posted by: unimpressed at 2:12 PM on 30 August 2005

Unimpressed -- it makes me ashamed to call myself a teacher.

I have never said that in 30 years.

Posted by: Vickie at 4:01 PM on 30 August 2005

Is Katrina hitting New Orleans comparable to what they say would be the Big One out in California, earthquake-wise? I mean it seems minute by minute the news is getting more dire. I saw a photograph of a high-rise hotel with every single blown out and tattered curtains billowing out the openings. It seriously is starting to look like when the tsunami hit last year.

Also, could somebody please elucidate for me the rationale of building a major metropolis, located on the warm Gulf waters. BELOW sea level? I'm sure there is a logical response. I fail to see it.

Posted by: Vickie at 8:38 PM on 30 August 2005

I think it's time to get reading glasses. Two more typos.

Posted by: Vickie at 8:39 PM on 30 August 2005

It wasn't always a bowl. When the area was settled in the 18th century, the bend in the Mississippi that defined New Orleans was a good five, ten feet above sea level — still awfully low and still easy to flood, but not the mess it is today.

But the coastal ecosystem, now riven with canals and populated well beyond what it was then, is deteriorating rapidly, and has been for some time. From 1930 to 1990, about 1,000 square miles of Louisiana slid under the Gulf; the average is now 25 per year. Two acres of the Mississippi delta vanish every hour. And the levees on the river have actually made matters worse: when the river used to flood the city, silt and sand and such would be deposited as sediment, helping to offset some of the sinking, but with the river walled away, there is no sediment, and the sinking accelerates.

Worldwide, with sea levels rising, the continents are sinking at a rate of about 5 inches per century. In that same 100 years, New Orleans will sink about three feet.

So even without Katrina, the Big Easy was due for hard time.

Posted by: CGHill at 9:11 PM on 30 August 2005