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	<description>I couldn&#039;t possibly fail to disagree with you less.</description>
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		<title>By: Baby M</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21941</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking at an old &lt;i&gt;Car &amp; Drive&lt;/i&gt;r from 1981 that has a five-car comparison test: Porsche 911, Ferrari 308 GTi, DeLorean, C3 &#039;Vette, and 280Z.  My box-stock GTI Mk. V beats the best cars in the bunch (Ferrari and Porsche) in every measured category except top speed.  To be fair, if you put 21st-century tires on either of them, they&#039;d probably catch up to me in lateral acceleration, but still...a Vee-Dub outgunning Magnum&#039;s Ferrari!

&#039;Course, the Ferrari and the DeLorean have me &#039;way out-cooled in the styling department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at an old <i>Car &amp; Drive</i>r from 1981 that has a five-car comparison test: Porsche 911, Ferrari 308 GTi, DeLorean, C3 &#8216;Vette, and 280Z.  My box-stock GTI Mk. V beats the best cars in the bunch (Ferrari and Porsche) in every measured category except top speed.  To be fair, if you put 21st-century tires on either of them, they&#8217;d probably catch up to me in lateral acceleration, but still&#8230;a Vee-Dub outgunning Magnum&#8217;s Ferrari!</p>
<p>&#8216;Course, the Ferrari and the DeLorean have me &#8216;way out-cooled in the styling department.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffro</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minivan? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bluesmobile.net/images/Acceleration%20%20Title.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is what a real man drives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minivan? <a href="http://www.bluesmobile.net/images/Acceleration%20%20Title.jpg" rel="nofollow">This</a> is what a real man drives.</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21908</link>
		<dc:creator>fillyjonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, even though it&#039;s probably &quot;good for me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, even though it&#8217;s probably &#8220;good for me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CGHill</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21892</link>
		<dc:creator>CGHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/ramonrempel/JoJo/songs/d/dodgevegomatic.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dodge Veg-O-Matic&lt;/a&gt; is out, then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/ramonrempel/JoJo/songs/d/dodgevegomatic.html" rel="nofollow">Dodge Veg-O-Matic</a> is out, then?</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21891</link>
		<dc:creator>fillyjonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Cocoa.&quot;

You know, I might just be slightly more inclined to buy a car named after a delicious food. 

(Yes, I am such a girl.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cocoa.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, I might just be slightly more inclined to buy a car named after a delicious food. </p>
<p>(Yes, I am such a girl.)</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21888</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When gas was $4-plus per gallon and I was contemplating retiring my Bronco (not like &lt;a href=&quot;http://mcgeheezone.com/weblog/index.php/2cents/entry/8527/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;) for something with similar load capacity (a large-ish dog and three (at the time) cats, plus luggage, make for quite a load), I considered whether a minivan might be the best choice. Which I narrowed down rather quickly to the Honda Odyssey.

Which I ruled out even more quickly when I realized even used ones are pretty pricey -- a common condition for Hondas in general. Without going into details, I know someone earning decent money who was only able to afford an eight-year-old Civic because it had been totaled and rebuilt for sale under a salvage title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When gas was $4-plus per gallon and I was contemplating retiring my Bronco (not like <a href="http://mcgeheezone.com/weblog/index.php/2cents/entry/8527/" rel="nofollow">this</a>) for something with similar load capacity (a large-ish dog and three (at the time) cats, plus luggage, make for quite a load), I considered whether a minivan might be the best choice. Which I narrowed down rather quickly to the Honda Odyssey.</p>
<p>Which I ruled out even more quickly when I realized even used ones are pretty pricey &#8212; a common condition for Hondas in general. Without going into details, I know someone earning decent money who was only able to afford an eight-year-old Civic because it had been totaled and rebuilt for sale under a salvage title.</p>
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		<title>By: Can a Real Man Drive a Minivan? — MANzine</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21885</link>
		<dc:creator>Can a Real Man Drive a Minivan? — MANzine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chaz Hill contends that, “A Real Man drives whatever he goddamn well pleases, be it an old Jaguar or a New Beetle.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Chaz Hill contends that, “A Real Man drives whatever he goddamn well pleases, be it an old Jaguar or a New Beetle.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CGHill</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21883</link>
		<dc:creator>CGHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similarly, the original Ford Taurus SHO, at its introduction the fastest sedan ever built in the States, now routinely gets its doors blown off by your mom&#039;s Camry.  (Okay, maybe by my stepmom&#039;s Camry, if she&#039;s in a hurry.)

And I&#039;ve actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dustbury.com/archives/169&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;linked that Car Lust article already&lt;/a&gt;, now that I think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similarly, the original Ford Taurus SHO, at its introduction the fastest sedan ever built in the States, now routinely gets its doors blown off by your mom&#8217;s Camry.  (Okay, maybe by my stepmom&#8217;s Camry, if she&#8217;s in a hurry.)</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve actually <a href="http://www.dustbury.com/archives/169" rel="nofollow">linked that Car Lust article already</a>, now that I think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Baby M</title>
		<link>http://www.dustbury.com/archives/8875/comment-page-1#comment-21882</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are those who would argue that a minivan is better than whatever it is you&#039;re driving. (http://www.carlustblog.com/2008/08/a-minivan-is-be.html)

&lt;i&gt;Grassroots Motorsports&lt;/i&gt; had an article a few years ago, a comparison test between a &quot;bathtub&quot; Porsche 356, a Jaguar XKE, and a Honda Odyssey. (http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/)  The Odyssey won.  Wasn&#039;t even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are those who would argue that a minivan is better than whatever it is you&#8217;re driving. (<a href="http://www.carlustblog.com/2008/08/a-minivan-is-be.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.carlustblog.com/2008/08/a-minivan-is-be.html</a>)</p>
<p><i>Grassroots Motorsports</i> had an article a few years ago, a comparison test between a &#8220;bathtub&#8221; Porsche 356, a Jaguar XKE, and a Honda Odyssey. (<a href="http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/" rel="nofollow">http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/</a>)  The Odyssey won.  Wasn&#8217;t even close.</p>
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