The Finch Formerly Known As Gold

29 September 2006

Retrocode

If you call Lynn these things, you may as well include me too:

Call me a dinosaur, call me a neanderthal, call me an old fuddy-duddy, call me a stick in the mud, whatever, but I think we could easily live without CSS. I used to have a stylesheet but every time I thought I had finally wrapped my brain around CSS something went wrong or I couldn't get the simplest little thing to work. I got sick of it so now I've got tables. Tables are great. They stay where you put them. Tables rule! Long live tables! Yay tables! BOO CSS!

I've made my peace with CSS — at least, the decorative aspects of it — but when it comes down to Where Things Go On The Damn Page, I have more faith in <TD> than in {position: absolute; left: 30px; top: 5px}. This is, incidentally, why I still have "4.0 Transitional" in ye olde DOCTYPE statement.

I suppose eventually all this will be "deprecated," a technical term meaning "I can't believe you're still using this crap"; Movable Type is already deprecating the comment-box popup, hinting that it will be gone in some future release (4.0?). At that time I'll probably switch to someone else's template and then spend the next few years making it unrecognizable.

Posted at 1:55 PM to PEBKAC


There's a forum on the pMachine site where every so often somebody posts a rant about how it's just wrong to use HTML tables for anything except tabular data!

Like you, I have come to terms with CSS up to a point, but I still use tables.

Except that tables incorporated into the body-content design of my blog have proved to be responsible for how slowly it would load (as I discovered only after I removed them) -- but I went to tables in that instance precisely because I couldn't figure out how to make CSS do the same thing.

Posted by: McGehee at 10:52 PM on 29 September 2006

One of the reason I do those other sites on WordPress is to get myself a trifle less unfamiliar with the weirdnesses (or so they seem) of CSS. I spent about twenty minutes on one post this week trying to come up with a method of placing images that's comparable to the old fuddy-duddy methods I used back in the Pleistocene era, which I can still do in my sleep.

Fortunately, I'm not the sort of person who utters dire curses when a validator sneers at me.

Posted by: CGHill at 11:09 PM on 29 September 2006

Hmm. I have img classes of "lfloat" and "rfloat" in my stylesheet that I use for image placement, but that's about the only thing I've ever been able to do with CSS for positioning that I've found satisfactory.

I have no clue how my CSS code would rate with a validator -- such things are not the boss of me.

Posted by: McGehee at 10:05 AM on 30 September 2006

Nothing wrong with tables. I still use them.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at 11:14 AM on 30 September 2006

I admit it - I'm hopelessly addicted to CSS. I refuse to give up server side includes, though. They let me do all my work in a text editor.

Posted by: Terry at 1:21 PM on 30 September 2006