The Finch Formerly Known As Gold

28 August 2007

A home for Chopping Guy

Andrea Harris has given up on the Sunshine State and is actually considering moving to some place like, well, Oklahoma City.

Her criteria:

What I am looking for: cheap rent in decent neighborhoods (ie, a low homeboy/crackhead/hooker to normal working person ratio); a job market that isn't all retail/resort/hospital focused (like Florida's); a halfway decent public transportation system (though I plan to have a car by then, I'd still like to be able to count on alternatives); a few nice parks/walking areas. An area of cute shops and nice (cheap) cafés would be a plus, though I don't need it (and my finances certainly don't).

What I don't care about: nightlife — my clubbing days are over; "activities" — which usually mean theme parks and golf; weather — the climate of most of the continental US sucks most of the year, I am resigned to that — all the places with really nice weather are too expensive to live in; "diversity" — I live in Diversity Central, so I know what that's really like. Most urban centers are by their nature "diverse" anyway.

We do well on the "cheap rent" side of the equation, although our crackheads are supplemented by methheads, which represent no improvement. Our mass transit is somewhere between barely adequate and barely inadequate, perhaps a tad short of "decent," although she'll have her own wheels by the time she gets here. Good walking areas are, well, area-dependent: there are parts of town where this might be inadvisable, but this is true of most cities of any size.

Also on her shortlist: the Dallas/Fort Worth metroplex and Greater St. Louis.

Posted at 8:25 AM to Dyssynergy

Thanks! And the car situation is looking good.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at 9:12 AM on 28 August 2007

I don't recommend the Washington, DC area, but I do have a soft spot for Baltimore... It's an artistic town, full of creative people and a desire to do good. Those two things combined make for a fun place to live with lots of interesting goings-on. But all of Maryland is expensive to live in, so if you want to save money you might have to live 14 people to an apartment.

Posted by: GreenCanary at 9:29 AM on 28 August 2007

GreenCanary, I should probably tell you now that I'm a right-wing misanthrope.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at 11:20 AM on 28 August 2007

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. ;}

I actually have been to Baltimore -- nice town. I've been to Washington a few times, New York exactly once for four days, Philadelphia a few times... I was thinking of moving to Philadelphia but I don't really feel a pull towards the northeast these days. Also, it's more expensive up there.

Huh. I'll be lucky if I make it to Valdosta. I'll crawl across the state line and just collapse.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at 12:15 PM on 28 August 2007

Oklahoma City is like Dallas/Ft. Worth-lite, with none of the traffic congestion, a comparable job market, and a much more affordable housing market.

I don't know much about St. Louis, except avoid the east side (see: National Lampoon's Vacation).

Posted by: Rob "Flack" O'Hara at 4:07 PM on 28 August 2007

If Andrea sees it:

I lived in St. Louis for 15 years and recommend it to anyone. Housing is cheap, and the hassle factor is low for a city with the resources they have. I visit OKC frequently (living as I now do near Claremore) and it seems very nice. I don't know much about Florida, but I'll bet she'd be amazed at now nice either of those places is in comparison. Hell, she might even like Tulsa and environs.

Posted by: Dave Himrich at 8:18 PM on 28 August 2007

I've always had a soft spot for St Louis, even though the first time I was there was marred by excessive (for me, anyway) drunkenness and I never have mastered the road layout.

Posted by: CGHill at 8:47 PM on 28 August 2007

It can't be as bad as Orlando. Nothing is as bad as Orlando's road "system," which looks like a pile of dropped spaghetti.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at 9:08 PM on 28 August 2007

St Louis is laid out like a female breast, with the nipple downtown and veins and arteries running more or less outward therefrom. No wonder I always got lost.

Posted by: CGHill at 9:41 PM on 28 August 2007

Ch, that was vivid.
Speaking of housing - thanks for the link.
[As to the parking: not needed anyway - after the downpayment there'd be nothing to buy a car with].

Andrea, I could invite you to's a perfect place for a right-wing misanthrope - you're never short of reasons to proceed with being one.

Posted by: Tatyana at 11:13 PM on 28 August 2007

Hold it! How can there be methheads if the government made it impossible to buy Sudafed in quantity and put all the labs out of business...

Posted by: Jay at 8:47 AM on 29 August 2007

Never underestimate the ingenuity of committed druggies.

Posted by: CGHill at 9:06 AM on 29 August 2007

I've always felt that a choice made strictly on price is not a sound long-term lifestyle decision.

Posted by: Mister Snitch! at 8:27 PM on 30 August 2007