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Coat of arms of Novokuznetsk

This lovely little bit of heraldry is the current coat of arms of Novokuznetsk, an industrial burg of half a million in south-central Russia. The town is coming up on its 400th anniversary, and would like ideas for updating that symbol. Last I looked, this was the frontrunner:

Proposed new coat of arms for Novokuznetsk

Um, yay?


  1. Don »

    8 January 2013 · 4:40 pm

    That’s almost as cool as the GL Union Jack.

  2. CGHill »

    8 January 2013 · 5:11 pm

    That dragon ought to be somewhere, so long as Wales remains in the UK.

  3. Tatyana »

    9 January 2013 · 6:48 am

    No Russian would place Novokuznetsk in “south-central Russia”.
    It is in Western Siberia, my friend.

  4. CGHill »

    9 January 2013 · 6:57 am

    My apologies. As with the coastal elites here, I know what’s west and east, and nothing of what’s in between.

  5. Tatyana »

    9 January 2013 · 9:07 am

    No, it’s a bit different mental orientationing…more of a historical timetable then geographic.
    You see, “Russia”, as in Great Rus earldom, in pre- medieval, ancient sense, is the country between Europe and Ural mountains. Only at the time of Ivan IV the Russians conquered Tartaria and added Kazan’ steppes behind Volga and Kama to the Empire – and that is not even getting to Ural. All those lands behind Ural, to the north, east and south, were acquired later, during the reign of Ekaterina I and on, and not in one blow. For several centuries, it was the “Wild East” for merchants and pioneers – but definitely not earlier than 16th century. There are so many aboriginal ethnic groups who lived there before Russians came – and who continue living there now…yes, technically Siberia is part of Russian Federation, and your placement is technically correct, but in common conscience Western SIberia is still not quite tame and not quite Russian.

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