Nazi, schmatzi

Our present-day “Nazis” are a rather poor imitation of the real thing, saith Thales of Florida:

No, not even the Swastika-bearing Stormfronters are proper Nazis. They are more akin to Nazi LARPers, role-playing or reenacting an ideology that died a long time ago. Even if they suddenly multiplied by several orders of magnitude, and became a real threat, their ideology while still being evil would not be actual Nazism, no matter what they may claim. Their evil is not Nazism. It’s like an absurd parody of Nazism. I mean, come on, Tiki Torches? They are the JV backbench of evil. And if they ever gained any measure of power, they would spend most of their time arguing who was whiter than thou while pretending they didn’t all have fetishes for Asian women.

Make no mistake, they are evil. But, again, evil is not coextensive with Nazism. Even though the Antifas are becoming a lot like the Nazis in some ways, they aren’t really Nazis either, though like the Stormfronters, they are evil. They, too, are a farcical form of evil. Unlike the Stormfronters, they have a measure of funding, media support, and popular support, which may make them a more prominent threat. And they are much larger, as a group. Quantity, of course, has a quality all of its own. Still, my suspicion is that if you put the Stormfronters and Antifas in a gladiator fight to the death, you would need two or three Antifas per Stormfronter to balance out the betting odds. Your mileage may vary.

The true measure, I suspect, is how much that battle royal would command via pay-per-view. At the moment, I can’t imagine it being more than about 89 cents.

(Title swiped from Professor Tom Lehrer.)


  1. McG »

    30 August 2017 · 8:40 am

    Personally, I think the attraction of marching around in uniforms and shouting in unison had more to do with the popularity of the German-American Bund than actual devotion to Aryan world conquest or the annihilation of Judaism.

    And the KKK has been a LARP troupe for at least 50 years, if not 100.

  2. Holly H »

    30 August 2017 · 9:04 am

    OK, but my false-equivalency meter is going off again.

  3. McG »

    30 August 2017 · 9:41 am

    There is indeed a qualitative difference between banding together to play dress-up, and banding together to throw a collective temper tantrum and beat up people who’ve banded together to play dress-up.

  4. Joseph E Hertzlinger »

    30 August 2017 · 5:08 pm

    Neo-Nazis can be compared to the modern witches. They’re role-playing gamers who adopted a name designed to freak out as many people as possible.

  5. Holly H »

    31 August 2017 · 11:17 am

    OK, you two.
    1. The neo-Nazis are attempting to do a lot more than just “dress up” and “freak out everybody”. They intend to spread a message of hate and violence towards other people, simply due to their race and/or religion.

    2. Those who throw a “collective temper tantrum” over this, have every reason for that response.

    3. Some idiots in group #2 (antifas) use poor judgment in how to thwart group #1’s goals. Their antics give an excuse to those who wish to equate these two groups.

    4. The rest of us must INSIST upon calling false equivalency, in spite of these idiots.

    5. The neo-Nazis are not equal to the witches either. They both DO like to freak everybody out with their names. But the modern witches are well-meaning (although misguided) nature-worshippers, for the most part. The neo-Nazis are NOT well-meaning. Big difference.

  6. ETat »

    31 August 2017 · 11:54 am

    Agreed – about both being evil but more dress-up clowns than serious mass danger.
    And proportion is about right, too.

    But only at this stage. In my view, antifa thugs are more dangerous – they are the commie Red Guard of years passed: in Germany (Wiemar republic), Kampuchea, China, numerous LatinAmerican countries, Anghola-Mozambique-Syria, etc.

    If this quasi-commie groups are given ground, they’ll swell and multiply and become real threat to democracy. Combination of reasons: irresponsible immigration policy, years of Red propaganda in our education system (see Hollier-than-You’ comment above, f.ex), certain seed amount of vulgar marxists in every society, etc.

  7. Holly H »

    31 August 2017 · 12:10 pm

    Hey buddy, I am certainly “Hollier-than-You”. ha!

    Boy, you’ve really got it in for the witches and Marxists today. I’ll stop there.

  8. ETat »

    31 August 2017 · 12:19 pm

    I am not a boy. Not your buddy either. And I “have it” for marxists since mid-school.
    Which makes me if not hollier , at least more qualified than you, honey.

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